The Lion and the Antelope
Technically a person can “survive” by which I mean, that they may get enough calories to stay alive, on a vegan or vegetarian diet but most don’t thrive longterm and may eventually succumb to disorder(s) caused by malnutrition, as well as have hormonal issues if they are consuming soy and flax.
Vegetarians at least can eat eggs, and drink raw milk, if it suits them – and they would get so many more nutrients, healthy fat and protein this way.
Vegans absolutely would need to supplement the nutrients they are missing out on if they want to avoid the inevitable poor health outcomes that would otherwise await them. But synthetic vitamins and minerals may come with another list, “inactive ingredients” that could potentially cause other harms down the line.
Side note: Someone who looks overly well fed, such as an obese person, is a malnourished person, that’s why they remain hungry and keep eating. Their body is searching for the missing nutrients. It’ll keep signally the person to eat until the needs are met. Another way to say this that those who are obese are usually eating too many foods that are devoid of minerals, nutrients, amino acids, and loaded with sugar.
It’s not about counting calories, it’s about taking an honest look at the NATURAL nutrition content of natural foods, and avoiding as much as possible the need to compensate for a unbalanced diet by using synthetic vitamins and nutrients. 

– By the way cows produce more milk (naturally) than their calf can drink. – How do I know this? Because I’ve worked on farms and spoken to farmers. Where did humans get the idea to eat eggs? Most likely through watching chickens eat their own eggs, after two of three days, when the egg has not been fertilized by a rooster.
“Animals are sentient beings” – But so are plants, and also everything else in the Universe. Plants and animals are considered 2nd density consciousness and though most humans are at a third density consciousness, this is not meant to say humans are “greater than.” All life is ever evolving.
Second density if defined as: (2D) plant and animal life, where consciousness first experiences will, passion, drive, pain, or pleasure. – Yes, plants do have feelings, and feel pain too and they communicate extensively, as any traditional indigenous person would tell you.
Some humans think we are so far removed, “so spiritual” that we should avoid eating meat because “we don’t need it.” But we do in fact need to eat at least some animal protein for good health, because if one is vegan, they will need to supplement anyway to ensure they are getting all the nutrients required to thrive. So, another way to say that is a vegan diet does not naturally provide all required nutrients for a human life to thrive. Supplements come from factories – from Lord only knows where in the world.
Ask yourself, if you were in the wild, by yourself, could you survive on the diet you currently have? That means, would you find anything resembling your current diet in the wild? Would it give you enough calories to face a harsh physical experience for a few days? Could you feed and shelter yourself until you found you way back to civilization?
Vegans in particular, owe their choices to modern inventions, food processing and worldwide transport. Tofu, is perhaps the oldest meat substitute that exists in the world, but it wasn’t being produced in the U.S. until around the 1960’s. Without worldwide trade, industrial processes, and synthetic vitamins, being vegan would not be easy for many who adhere to this austere diet.

Though I know a couple of vegans personally, who are not slanderous, the vast majority I’ve met will often call other humans, who are not vegan, murderers, among other things. This is quite sad for their group as a whole.
I did one time meet a vegan who was reflective upon the harm she unintentionally caused her house cat by trying to feed it a vegan cat food.- I can’t even imagine what the ingredients were.
Anytime someone believes they are “holier than thou” there are going to be problems, and yes, there is such a thing as a Spiritual Narcissist. The mindset is baffling to think on one hand a person is called names by certain groups, to shame them about their dietary choice, to eat animal products. The term “Speciesism” is a shaming tactic. Shaming tactics are used to manipulate others into doing the will of someone else.
If you were to transpose this, and think of this in the context of a religious cult, shame(name calling, shunning, sarcasm, expressing disgust) is one of the greatest weapons a cult has to keep you from leaving or questioning things, it goes along with them gaslighting one’s personal experiences to keep it’s members compliant.
So I ask again? who’s life is more valuable? The lion or the antelope? What about the antelope versus the vegetation it eats? All life is equally valued in the eyes of Creation, even the plant life.
People may think they are consciously(spiritually) superior to a lion, but the lion doesn’t pollute its environment, nor does it let anything go to waste, or rather, the ecosytem lets nothing go to waste. Everything has its purpose. The lion does not question it’s existence because it must take the antelope’s life.












